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How did you approach your collaboration with Claire

Désert?

I found I could function with Claire the same way as I used to

with David Golub. David and I never talked about what we were

doing, and indeed we talked very little about music, because we

allowed the music we were making to take over, to open doors,

to make us think about other options, so that it would be as

spontaneous as possible.

With Claireweworked in that sameway. I’m really fond of football,

and she’s really keen on rugby: we talk about sport, almost

never about what we’re going to do when we play. We listen to

each other, we try out different things. With the experience of

the concert, the interpretation more or less creates itself, as it

were, and that’s how I prefer it, because if you approach every

page of music with a specific intention you paralyse the work,

which needs its share of human experience. And recording fixes

things still more. You can listen to yourself, and you can choose

takes at the editing stage. You acquire a distance, the distance of

the listener. That experience changes the game: it’s like fixing an

interpretation at a precise instant in a certain ideal.