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26 BRAHMS_ CELLO SONATAS

With whom did you work on them?

First of all withmy teacher in Chicago; we started with the Sonata in Eminor. Then

the whole family moved to Florida, and at that time there wasn’t a cello teacher of

a sufficiently high standard in that part of the state. So between the ages of fifteen

and seventeen I worked at my instrument by myself.

Was Brahms on your programme of study at that time?

Oh, everything was on the programme! Since I was working alone, I explored

an enormous amount of music, and I was free to choose. After that I went to

Bloomington, and for five years I studied with János Starker; of course, the Brahms

sonatas were on the syllabus there too. But what you learn with your teacher is

one thing, lifelong frequentation of the works is another, and what the partners

you perform them with bring you is something else again. I frequently played

these two works with a pianist who was particularly dear to me, David Golub,

who unfortunately died in October 2000; I learnt a lot from him. In the end, you

no longer knowwhere you got such and such an idea or impulse. From yourself, or

from your partner? It’s simply the music that take shape as you play it; all of that is

determinedby awholebundleof experiences that timehas stratified, and its origins

become blurred. The important thing is that it should determine a conviction as to

the interpretation of the work.